but lie detector tests are used routinely for law enforcement and security clearances at the highest levels of the federal government. and i think it was just last week, in fact, that vice president pence was suggesting that lie detector tests be used in connection with ferreting out who wrote the anonymous memo. it's going to be curious as to whether all of a sudden the administration believes that the lie detector test that dr. ford passed is unreliable. we're not talking about a mere accusation or an allegation. and here's another important point. this isn't going to be adjudicated in one day or even two days. an accusation of this nature could not be fully adjudicated in that short a period of time before the senate judiciary committee. you would need a couple of weeks, at a minimum, for the presentation of evidence. >> sure. >> you'd need more witnesses called other than dr. ford and judge kavanaugh. >> true. >> this would have to go through an extensive process. and to what end? there's other individuals that are more qualified than this judge to sit on the supreme