isn't -- kate doesn't have a funny bone and kate can't take a joke. this is crass. it's inappropriate. >> it's disgusting. >> and i'm constantly amazed when an elected official can stand up anywhere and think, you know what, this joke's going to kill it. this is going to be a good one. >> actually, there was laughter in that room. >> sure. i don't care. >> maybe it did kill nit thit i room. >> people make jokes all the time that are not appropriate. >> what i guess i would say is the country's still changing. we're not there. as a country, as a society, we get better every day but we're not perfect yet. >> thanks, guys, great to see you. >> thanks, kate. "outfront" next, a woman who's known christine blasey ford for years says ford doesn't like to fly because, quote, it's the ultimate closed space where you cannot get away. and kavanaugh supporters questioning ford's memory. >> i was 15 the same summer. i don't remember a lot about that summer either. >> my guest, a cornell university psychiatrist who says the brain doesn't forget something as traumatic as sexual assault.