and one senior republican aide texted me about kind of the view of this from their point of view and said it is, as you said, it's emotion versus fact. the emotion of what she said and the fact that she sounds credible versus the notion or the question of whether there are facts to back that up. and it's unclear if brett kavanaugh can provide those facts. >> except, as we have talked about a great deal, this is not a court of law. this is politics and it's the court of public opinion. so actually, emotion might factor much more than fact when is it comes to what the senators ultimately decide. >> one thing about prosecutors, they're masterful cross-examiners. i think that you're right about the notion that perhaps she will be most strategically use for for brett kavanaugh to lead him through the uncomfortable