say it didn't happen. >> okay, sir. do you wish she had just remained silent then? >> the witnesses who were there say it didn't happen. all allegations should be taken seriously. >> so even if it's in the final days, days before a vote, if someone has a credible allegation of experience that they held for a long time, that person should be allowed to come forward. in fact as she said it was her civic duty. you're not questioning her sense of civic duty, are you? >> she did come forward and then was -- >> i know you have a lot of political animus towards my colleagues and ion this panel. what i'm trying to get to the bottom of is you do not see her specifically adds part of a orchestrated -- she's not a political pawn. >> i do not know her. we bear no ill will toward her. she wanted confidentiality. >> and i understand. she came forward, she came a great extent. your family has gone through hell. her family has gone through hell. she sat here, she told her