otherwise. that doesn't pass the smell test. david's right that probably doesn't go all the way to perjury although i'm not sure exactly when it is you say you've gotten to perjury. it is a degree of perception that shouldn't be with someone on the highest court in the land. the question is in flake be joined in that decision by collins and murkowski. they need two and then it's over. >> frank, david and robin, thank you for your time. guess who is back? stormy daniels. a source telling cnn new details about president trump's efforts to keep her quiet. her attorney michael abnatty here to talk about it.