he wants to know can you corroborate ford or ramirez. that is where he draws the line. and the other stuff to him, unless the fbi comes up with something stunning didn't seem to him relevant. fair characterization? >> i think that is where this is all going and this is what jeff flake was asking for. essentially to have somebody independent, the fbi, to come in and try to figure out where the gaps in the story are. you have these two stories from dr. ford and from judge kavanaugh that are so different from each other. he denies it, she claims it, but there are missing pieces to about it. the fbi should be able to find the missing pieces or they can't. that seems to be what he is asking for and getting. i wouldn't be surprised -- and you mentioned the objection from democrats about who is not being interviewed by the fbi. sort of a process question, process argument about the fbi investigation. i think republicans, jeff flake, lisa murkowski, susan collins, are also frustrated with the