but then you have to know that these folks are republicans, right? this is their party. this has been their party for a long time, and this has been the dream of the republican party, to have a supreme court that's conservative, that will rule a certain way on any number of issues, roe v. wade, voting rights, redirecting. if you are collins, you are weighing what it would mean if she were to walk away from her party at this moment. >> you say republicans have been laying the ground work for this for years. susan page, there is a skeptical camp out there that says that all of this last minute hammering is a little overdone. that at the end of the day things are going to turn brett kavanaugh's way. do you buy that? >> republicans always want to vote the republican way. the easier thing to do is vote with your party. you need a powerful incentive to vote against your party. if you have that as your landscape, i think that probably