because when the train came for us, finally, and they -- she noticed that they were putting two buckets in each car. those small buckets, you know, that milk -- farmers use to milk their cows in, three gallon or so. the one with the water, and the other one was for toilet purposes, and then they loaded us, 70, 80. so it was standing room only. >> in boxcars. >> so my mother did something that would have killed her. she addressed the commandant. she said, i know where we are going. this water is not going to be enough. what will we do? you know, along the way, they say, what happened to the germans? they used to be the flower of europe. so, uh, there was a sergeant, gestapo. there was always a sergeant with the commandant. he took his gun, put it to my