so this country is growing like we haven't grown. it's not a matter of we can either talk about that or talk about immigration and the border. why can't it be both? it should be both and. and they are related. one of the reasons, i believe, that working class wages has stagnated and in the past and are now accelerating, blue collar wages are now rising even faster than white collar. they are both doing great. hispanics are doing better than whites. one of the key reasons is we're not flooding the country with a million illegal workers a year. that's not just national security policy. it's terrible economic policy. getting control of the borders is very much linked to our economic prosperity. >> i can see how you can make the case. you can make an economic case and a lot of the candidates are. the president believes something different is compelling. i really think we have to give it some air because he's making