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cannot -- when we're having pancakes in the morning, it's crazy to have a man with a tuxedo come in. you have some little girls at a sleepover and you're bringing in some water. so we cancelled the tuxedos, it's like, take those tuxedos off, wear some polo shirts and slacks, unless we did something formal, we just sort of loosened it up a bit. but other than that, the white house does feel like a home. >> so moving into such a historic home has got to be douglas been adjustment process for any family, for any of the first families. they were the first african-american family, even more so probably. >> well, you know, i got a chance to read michelle's first rate memoir, she really dotes on both of her daughters a lot. and talks about what it's like to raise them in the white house.

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