whether or not there was anything classified in there, it's about not following the rules that everybody else has to follow. >> april, you know, i was joking around before. in truth, i really shouldn't. i really don't know what's going to happen in terms of what kind of rules and who gets to vet them and is there any kind of agreement, and what is really due process, and are we going to have to wind up going back to a judge to have a determination about what the first amendment entitles reporters to? but what's your gut on this, april, in terms of where -- i heard that you were hopping around in your seat during my debate segment with steve cortes and angela rye when he said that the president has never done anything -- >> i was. >> he's never done anything to free speech in this country. never. he just criticizes us. >> oh, my god, your producers know too much. >> you were on camera, my love. >> the president has done something. i know i was. you know, here's the problem, chris. this moment in time is a