admitted liar. roger stone just quoted jerry corsi. i'll quote roger stone. he told jeffrey toobin that his personal motto -- roger stone's personal motto is admit nothing, deny everything, launch counter attack. that's what we see him doing here. this is the way people go after cooperating witnesses when they're afraid. i've seen this dance a thousand times. before things go bad, corsi, stone, hand-in-hand, plotting, working with wikileaks. as soon as stone sees the writing on the wall, it's a tack corsi claimed the prosecutors are leaning on him. >> to underscore, if people are just tuning in, this jerome corsi is not a household name. roger stone has become one. it's like the hawks who have been circling roger stone. what kind of information could corsi give the mueller team that could lead them on a path toward roger? >> so stone in all the sort of assorted personalities around