the refugee and asylum laws, for decades that has been recognized as a claim for asylum. what we're doing is taking a humanitarian crisis that has clear law enforcement ramifications. we can't deny the ramifications and instead treating it as a national security issue that has no humanitarian dimension. what we saw yesterday. there's no justification for violence or rock throwing or charging the border but what we saw yesterday is the predictable consequence of a policy that is giving people no possibility of relief from what is an intolerable situation. >> leon rodriguez, steve cortez, appreciate you being with us. coming up next, the president's promises about keeping jobs in ohio, today's news about big general motors job cuts in ohio and elsewhere