tillerson, would not understand from the very beginning why rex tillerson would want to get himself involved with that. she has no political leanings, doesn't know anything. and if she can, as a layperson, say, why would he want to get himself involved with that, and then you see the outcome, i'm just saying, you know. as they say, stevie wonder could have seen that. >> right. and, look, you could say tillerson has got sour grapes or whatever. >> no. >> nobody has ever criticized him as being stupid or not having the mental ability for any job. the guy basically ran a country when he was running exxon. >> have you seen exxon's profits? have you seen how successful exxon is? >> it's literally like a country. >> he should be learning something about business, not just about politics, meaning the president, prosecute rex tillerson. there you go. bad week for this president. all the best -- as you said, i'm rubber, you're glue. for me, it's all the best people, right? all the best people. we're going to hire all the best people. we're going to do all of this vetting. extreme vetting, best people. and very fine people on both