affair several years earlier, so it was an incredible coincidence that the money happened to change hands just on the eve of the election? >> no. listen, that's a good point, but that part is not coincidental because the reason there was an impetus for them to come forward was the fact that donald trump was achieving fame even though he was already a famous person. he was achieving fame like he had never seen once he became the republican nominee. so that encouraged them to come out, but that doesn't mean there weren't several reasons why, personal life, business life, politics, you would want this to stay confidential and that doesn't make it a campaign contribution. it's legal and allowed. >> carrie, how do you see this? >> i think, anderson, that the campaign finance part of it and the payments to the women is somewhat of a distraction from the big issue of the cooperation with russian government and russian government surrogates.