it will be hard to sign up people in the future to fight with the united states if we abandon the kurds. >> if he doesn't change course, if he doesn't listen, if he doesn't listen to you, what are you prepared to do about it? >> well, i have a resolution that is bipartisan already. we have about 30 co-sponsors, asking him to reconsider the decision. make it a conditions-based withdrawal. >> at this point, is this one of those things where, like -- >> just advice. >> hold up judicial nominations until he listens to you? >> no, what i want to do is let him know that there are a lot of republicans and democrats who will stand with him to see this through. that bringing our troops home from syria is the goal. you just have to do it smartly. getting other people to fight more and pay more is a worthy goal, and actually, it's working. he's getting nato to pay more, and people in the region need to do more. we can't -- he's the commander in chief. i couldn't make president obama listen to the generals. i advised him to. i can't make president trump listen to his national security