for children. these were built for adult males and designed to be short term. they're built with the mexican population in mind who's typically detained only for a few hours. now we're housing families in there. the border patrol agents are now having to serve as caretakers for children. quite frankly, a lot of this is unnecessary. we have this fixation on detention. it doesn't serve as a deterrent. there's no adequate reason for this. we can still deport these individuals. we can be just as tough at the border by releasing them. unfortunately, when you're detaining children, things like this are probably, sadly, and tragically, inevitable. >> and, you know, as nick was describing for us, we had this release of immigrants that took place without notice from i.c.e. does that seem to be an indication of this whole overcrowding and this system that's overstressed here and why would there not be some communication to nonprofit groups? >> i think really, look, the folks at i.c.e. and the folk, at