republican conference. i bet you anything mitt romney will vote with the president more often than rand paul. >> which is an interesting point, but scott, doesn't that then mitt romney is doing everything he can to get trump reelected. a guy who he says doesn't have the moral standing to be president, right? i mean, both those things i'm saying are true. >> i think when push comes to shove -- >> helping the guy win again. >> yeah, look, when push comes to shove in 2020, i expect virtually every republican to side with a republican incumbent president over whatever liberal democrat alternative. i just think the idea that you're going to see republican senators split off and support a third party or a democrat for president, that is just not -- that's not living in reality. >> and on this, since you have endorsement, though, jake asked mitt romney about that. here's what he said. >> he was endorsing me, i wasn't endorsing him. and i haven't decided who i'm going to endorse in 2020. i'm going to wait and see what the alternatives are. >> does his endorsement matter, joan? >> i don't think so. i think it's very early.
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