president trump says he'll let the government stay closed as long as it takes to get a budget deal that pays for his border wall. and the breaking news underscores it. the president telling lawmakers he can't accept the democrats' offer to reopen the government because he, and i'm quoting here, would look foolish if i did that. meantime, hundreds of thousands of breadwinners are either furloughed or working without pay. before the break, we heard from the white house. i want to check in now with cnn's phil mattingly at the capitol. phil, you're talking to lawmakers and staffers who were in the meeting with the president today. is there any sense at all that there's a way out of this, at this point? >> the short answer, anderson, to be blunt, is no. and i think the reality here on capitol hill has not changed that much over the course of the last couple of days. and that is that both sides are extremely dug in. both sides, at least from the president's perspective and from democrats' perspective believe that they have the political winning hand, that their bases are behind them, that their rank and file is behind them. and at this moment, nobody is willing to blink. now, keep in mind, there are staffers here on capitol hill in both chambers, on both sides of the aisle that have gone through