just doesn't hold up, their numbers and their argument. listen to this. >> we know that roughly, nearly 4,000 known or suspected terrorists come into our country illegally. and we know that our most vulnerable point of entry is at our southern border. >> i know that statistic. i studied up on it. you know where those 4,000 people are captured? airports. >> not always, but certainly a large -- >> the state department says there haven't been any terrorists they've found -- >> it's by air, land and it's by sea. all of the above. >> no, it's not all of the above. it's not the southern border, and she was trying to conflate the two. >> yeah, this is an incredible story. i first told the story in my book on the 2016 campaign that the idea for the wall was not trump's. it was a pnumonic device to keep him centered on the issue of immigration. trump wasn't talking about it enough. they thought it would connect