side because cnn doesn't always do that, and the president has had an incredible record. i know you don't always agree with his approaches. i don't always agree with his approaches. >> i think you're thinking about another network that doesn't allow the other side. i always want both sides. >> no, it's true, your show -- your show you always invite me on to give another side and another perspective and i appreciate that. >> always welcome. god bless and good luck for the new year. let's get out of this mess. >> good. great to see you. >> take care. there are lots of things in the world that this president can relate to, like what's happening in skyscrapers and what it's like at golf clubs, okay? but nobody buys that this president can relate to the woman you met tonight and her child. the idea that people can make adjustments when they're living check to check. and we all know that this shutdown wasn't the right way to get this done. so we're going to take that on in the closing and we're going to check in with your favorite man on cnn, next. ut, uh, a talk? why? i'll tell you why because people trust advertising icons.