democrats being responsible and all the rest. i bet at the white house right now they are trying to figure out how to respond and maybe they will say, fine, we'll do it from. the oval office or where we intend to come or maybe she did this to light a fuse under everyone to say et we got to get this resolved by the state of the union. if the government is shutdown and the president is addressing his agenda, which is what the state of the union is all about, the government is closed. >> both parties are telling their respective sides to hold the line, stay united, trump is telling his supporters that this looks to go quite long. you even have newt gingrich telling the president to ramp up the pressure. i mean, to me, it seems like we're in a dark, dark place.