story was an incredible thing to so. i have been looking at this, michael. i am sure you are from the perspective of a litigator, former prosecutor, i'm trying to be a little analytical. here's what i come out. you see these dlem las, two different parties telling you two different stories not fully reconcilable. what do we know for sure? what is undisputed. michael cohen lied to congress about the moscow project. nobody disputes that. it's not disputeed that michael cohen did not strike on his own. it was a bigger coordinated effort. mueller written about cohen's effort to circulate and prepare his false testimony. so we know those things. so the question i see are these, who are those people involved? was one donald trump? and was the involvement, direct, hey, michael, i need you to do this or indirect? the one thing i think we can safely write off now, given mueller's response yesterday, it was not direct. not in mueller's current