2016 up through november 2016, as he has said repeatedly, we're now in times we know trump is calling upon russia to look into hillary clinton's e-mails almost goading them to hack the e-mails. that's an issue. >> and setting policy. >> sanctions. >> all of that. helping to change the republican policy platform, all that stuff, which is why the trump tower is relevant. is guiliani helping or hurting? >> he's helping in the sense people are getting tired of this and having trouble sorting through it. >> that helps. >> that helps for voters, ultimately if it goes to the senate or impeachment, that does help. he's hurting as far as the investigation goes and prosecutors. i think he is putting -- we know mueller will not come out and say, rudy, that's wrong. he's not ken starr and doesn't walk to the end of his driveway
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