there is a compromise that makes sense, border wall funding for permanent fix for the dreamers. and there's reasons why both sides could look at that as being nonstarters with their own core supporters. but i think democrats are fighting a larger fight here over not negotiating during a federal shutdown. and not caving in during that shutdown and not separating out. that's what the president has created here as a kriecrisis. and we're losing any sense of what a real crisis looks like if the president is going to create something like this just to reach a particular end which he could have reached before when republicans had control of congress. >> they had several votes last year on plans that members of both sides more than agree on today. >> for more money. >> more money, but permanent protections as well. you're talking about the real-world impact. in a little bit i'll talk to someone from the fbi acts association who will tell us that the country is less safe because of this shutdown and we heard from the commandant of the