remember what he did? he put out the bracelets that said we are indivisable and it and it wept to help people jammed up by the recession. was a great thing to see a big corporation doing. he got a lot of wattage out of it. it would be a relevant message today against this president. going against disunity, literally. with the definition of it within the constitution. is there room for that message within the democratic party? >> he's a liberal. there's no question about it. if you look at the policies he talked about on 60 minutes, he said i'm more conservative on the debt. every other single thing he said was a liberal. he would be defeated by the president. because the country doesn't want a liberal like that to be president but it's amazing to me that he doesn't want to run as a democrat and he sees they're going the way of socialism. they're going to have a race to the left and to be as extreme