interested in. if a pardon comes down for stone, could he face any state liability? so the key thing about a presidential pardon is it only affects federal criminal -- >> you were reading my mind. go on. i've been thinking about it. >> so this is the question is did mueller strategically bring certain charges of the indictment that only a federal prosecutor could bring? felony, false statements on a federal level, obstruction of justice, and did he leave out other charges that could potentially be brought by new york state? none of those are the slam dunks you see in this indictment against stone. but the question i'm asking is could you bring a state charge under new york law for aiding and abetting for a hacking conspiracy or soliciting stolen goods? i think there's a stronger case for those crimes than you would for violations of campaign financial. if you have stone involved with a conspiracy to solicit stolen