towards a government shutdown or a national emergency. >> yeah, so february 15th, don, is when this current deal runs out. he has two options at the end of that, and i don't think there'll be a deal that he science. he has two options. one, let the government shut down again, two, declare national emergency. i think given what happened to the republican brand over this 35-day shutdown that he just endured, there's no way in heck that he's shutting down the government again, which means a national emergency. but in the near-term, he'll keep the government open. >> how will his base react to that? >> i think they'll react well, because it will be a prolonged legal fight, but in the nearest term, he can say, i got it even though democrats wouldn't work with me. >> so i wanted to talk with will hurd about this and we touched on it a little bit. and april, we were talking in the break. so i don't understand the framing of this. because i want the american people to be completely aware, there's already fencing, 4 --