waste of time. sure sounds like we're headed towards a government shutdown or national emergency. >> so february 15th, don, is when this current deal runs out. he has two options at the end of that, and i don't think there'll be a deal that he signs. he has two options, let the government shutdown again, two, declare a national emergency. i think given what happened to the republican brand we've just endured, there's no way in heck he's shutting down the government again, which means a national emergency. and that'll be litigated through the courts. >> how will his base react to that, you think? >> i think they'll react well because it'll be a prolonged legal fight, but in the sort of nearest term he can say i got it even though democrats wouldn't work with me. >> okay, so i wanted to talk about and we touched on this. i don't understand the framing