reopened. the question is, were they willing to give at all on the amount of funding? and the big question is, has there been a conversation with the president where the president has said i'm going to go go ahead and do the wall another way? >> that's one of the things that manu was getting at there. there is a sense among the republicans that if they agree to something, it will be hard for the president to say no. adolfo, we don't expect that the president will get anywhere near the $5.7 billion for a border barrier, if any new, real money at all. what do you think he might be willing to accept here? >> i don't know the figure. i think more telling will be if the word wall is included. that will be key. that's a political statement. i think that's what people will be looking for, or barrier. the figure that's been bandied