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hearted, and its most dangerous as an underground movement. >> right. you think president trump is missing the point that even if the caliphate falls, that doesn't mean it's the end of isis. he is getting advice of that, but he doesn't seem to be processing that information. >> well, trump doesn't listen to the central intelligence agency or the pentagon. both of whom understand what's going on in this part of the world. if the caliphate should fall, baghdadi should be captured, that's not the end of it. it's a resistance movement, very much like marksism. it will continue on until there's some sort of political resolution, and he is just disengaging from the middle east way too fast, and is he going to regret this, and i would say very soon. >> well, always great to have your analysis on these matters. many thanks to you. >> thank you. 26,579 and counting.

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