dean. when john dean testified before the senate's watergate committee, that's where we found out a lot of information. that's where the revealing of nixon's enemy list came forward. all of these things happen. tomorrow, potentially we will learn new information. i don't think to the gravity of what folks learned in the watergate hearings in 1973 but i think we'll learn something new and michael cohen will have to answer why he lied in the first place and why he is back here tomorrow. more so than just salvaging his reputation. >> i'm not a big lover of hype but the reason i think tomorrow will be remembered in this entire situation is i see it as a pivot point. this isn't about the mueller report taking down the presidency. that's my speculation. attack me for it if you will. but i have never seen it being aa threat to the presidency but