mogul, to donald trump of the tawdry, cheap hush money payments. there's no other way to describe that. we have a president in his own personal life had a man described as his fixer. and that's not what successful, legitimate self-made businessmen have. they might have a lawyer who helps things on the side, but having somebody around who threatens people when they get in your way, say they're going to take a bullet for you, plays the tough guy, plays the have, i can't imagine he's going to portray donald trump as having this wonderfully clean business. what i do hope, though, is that the democrats, this is going to the question you asked laura here, the democrats shut up and let him talk. they don't make points, and they don't need to. he wants to be there. but it's congress. >> so, again, i think that's very good advice if you're the questioner. say it again. >> shut up and let him talk. that's what err good every good journalist knows to do and doesn't always do. he wants to tell a story, just let him tell it. >> that's a very good point.