>> carol? >> we're ready for progressive candidates, they've won all over the country and i think we need bold, strong leadership and you will find that in the progressives. >> i think that we had the standard bearer for the kind of pragmatic centrist candidate in hillary clinton in 2016 and donald trump is now president. he is not your average political candidate, so we really need to three to think outside the box because, you know, it seems like the dude is made of rubber, anything you throw at him bounces off, there's nothing that sticks. >> how many of you would like to see joe biden get in? show of hands? what's happening? >> his time is done. >> i will be honest i used to think like, you know, because -- obviously i rode the obama wave and i thought he was a person that would unite the party, but to be honest, you know, senator biden really comes from kind of the good old boy politics of the
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