being in one sense facilitated by people who are complicit in this very mendacity. what do the facts say? facts matter. truth matters. what actually happened makes a difference. empirical means that which can be false fight or verified through the sentence. the legislative process is saying let us apply what we have against this test case. if the president says no, let's see if he says no. but if we don't know, we don't have the documents we don't know what we're dealing with. >> this is a good back and forth. young, good to have y >> federal deficit is getting fat. why? in part because of the tax cut. in part because of our fiscal