treatment, and now this is abuse of the government and abuse of the taxpayer dollars to insist that this be something you get from the united states air force. it's really shocking. >> but the bizarre piece of this is so -- so they're working in the white house, but apparently president trump didn't want them there. at one point when he hired john kelly, his new chief, he told them to, quite, get rid of my kids, get them bark to new york boy -- quote, get rid of my kids, get them back to new york. why wouldn't trump want his son-in-law and his daughter around? on the one hands, you know, there's all this reporting recently of how he risked everything to get them the top security clearances. on the other hand, he wants them out of d.c.? it doesn't jive for me. >> no. it doesn't. you know, a lot of what donald trump says and does would make no sense to a regular person. you're -- you look at this from the outside, and you think, well, either he wants him in there or doesn't.