not sure what that looks like either, but -- >> what about the students, though? none of the students working with stanford's coach actually ended up attending but what do you think should happen to the students who did benefit on other elite college campuses? do you think they should be expelled because in some cases they had no idea what their parents had done? >> right. exactly. it's very unclear, you know, what sort of disciplinary action should be taken because so many of the students did not know, right, that their parents had taken this. it's not up to me as a student to decide how -- what sort of actions should be taking go forward -- >> what do you think is fair? >> i definitely think it's, you know -- the institution should be subject to greater scrutiny at least, college athletics recruiting should have a stronger fact finding, fact checking process to check people's credentials and to