>> we could help the dreamers. we want to have the dreamers. we will have a deal with the dreamers. >> where is it? when is it? why not now? so why give this offering, even at 20 minutes, when the president in two minutes could use his current emergency declaration. i know i argued it was a misapplication of the 1976 statute, i still think it is. there is not a lot of case law on it and not many people are challenging it, except out there in california and we don't know what's going to happen. that's the start of tonight's great debate with angela rye and ken cuccinelli. good to have you both. ken, help me with that. i'm not saying they shouldn't revamp the process, i'm just saying it's not practical. they can't agree on what time it is. let alone immigration. but the emergency declaration, i have this from legal counsel and sources at dhs, cbp, at the white house. he could tap those pockets and have the defense department do more of what they're doing right