in 1996 there was whitewater, filegate, travelgate. four or five investigations where people had to testify having to produce documents. in that year, an election year, we produced welfare reform, raising the minimum wage and something called kennedy castlebalm which allowed you to move health care when you moved jobs. the answer is, no, they didn't grind to a halt. >> president clinton held his nose when he had to talk to republicans? he couldn't have been happy. >> he wasn't. but the president's strategy of caroli clinton is different from trump. clinton was angry but said i won't make myself a victim. this isn't about me. it is about the american public. it was a strategy and it worked. trump has done the opposite. he made everything about him. i really think in the long run the public looks at the