but now that you have more people in the field that represent the same ideals or similar ideals as bernie sanders, hep doesn't look as exciting as he did last cycle. i am not surprised that elizabeth warren is where she is right now, because elizabeth warren has a plan. and is having those details, in-depth conversations with potential voters who are in iowa and other places about exactly what she'll do. i think what we're seeing right now from bernie sanders is kind of, we know what he stands for, he's repeating that over and over, he's got his talking points down, but we're not necessarily getting anything fresh and invigorating and exciting. and so it's not surprising to me that people are like, oh, yeah, we know what you're about, but these other folks are now rising up because we're hearing more from them and it's interesting. >> yeah, i think, for me, it's a pretty interesting poll and it confirms -- i think it confirms the suspicion i've had. biden and sanders are weak. biden is the vice president to the most popular president in recent times and he's now at 24% in iowa and falling. you know, once people -- i mean,