to any kind of promise he might have made about testing nukes. and so i think what the president is trying to do is play the good guy here to kim jong-un. so, look, this is the way spy craft works if. you ask me and i don't work for the cia but if you ask anybody who does, the fact that you could recruit kim jong-un's half brother is a big deal. as an asset. and for a president of the united states so say, no, i would never do that and i'm -- that would never happen under me is kind of stunning. because one wishes it could. so i think today was confusing. and he didn't want to go into it. it is clear. he just said we're doing very well and he kind of smoothed that one right over, or tried to. >> right. waiting to see maybe perhaps what was in the letter and if there are guarantees for a third summit or not. dana bash, bringing you in in washington there to join this conversation. another piece of what he was asked about or he brought up,