and now they are settling on they are old and we have new polls now. the new polls are issue polls that means they are asking voters leading questions like do you think it's a good idea for undocumented immigrants to get health care. that's one of the polling questions that they pointed to in this statement. that doesn't mean the president is winning. it gets to the notion about why is the president so adamant about denying why he's losing in the polls. it shows the president lagging in hypothetical matchups, losing in those rust belts that were so crucial to his election. >> i've heard people theorize that one of the reasons the polls keep being mentioned to the press and perhaps, we don't