the midst of all this. part of the president's inner circle. the white house lawyers on behalf of the president prevented her from answering any questions related to her service in the white house. making in very bogus claim about something called absolute immunity which doesn't exist. the courts have rejected that. we don't have a king. there is no such thing as absolute immunity. she didn't invoke privilege. they just used this madeup claim they don't have to answer questions which will be rejected by a court. >> i want to ask you more about what she said. to that point, first, obviously chairman nadler says he is destroying the white house claim. destroy his word for absolute immunity for hicks and don mcgahn who the white house is preventing from testifying under oath. but you say this is going to be easy. look, i know it hasn't been gone sided by the supreme court. the obama white house even argued a senior administration official in their case shouldn't have to testify. are you really confident you'll win this so easily. >> absolutely, yes.