meeting of president trump with vladimir putin. and the president jokingly chided putin for election interference here in the united states and it was clear he wasn't serious at all about that. what did you make about that moment? >> i'm continually stunned by a president who either treats this as a humorous event, or absolutely requests the assistance of russia. look, not only did he do that before the last election, he did it again two weeks ago. he basically said, look, send me stuff. i'll be happy to take i lo-- toe a look at it. and he continues on the wink and nod when we're in a mortal situation where a foreign power is attempting to sub vert our democracy. in clearin equivocal and beyond a reasonable doubt terms. this man is a threat to national security. he is a threat to democracy. and i think jimmy carter's comments went to the heart of something that is not a peripheral matter, it is a dire