have that as going down in history. what it would achieve when it comes to denuclearization is another matter. none really has changed since the hanoi summit in february. very surprising for north korea, humiliating for north korea. when it comes for actual platform grand, very little has changed. >> that really is the final question that i wanted to pose to you. you know, we've certainly seen many letters between the two. we have the possibility of more optics. but at the end of the day, paula, is there a sense is that there is progress being made when it comes to the complete verifiable, irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula? >> reporter: well, it's interesting, george, just a couple days ago, we had from the foreign ministry published in media slamming the u.s., slamming trump administration officials being very careful, of course, not to slam the u.s. president himself. but slamming secretary of state