>> is that not going getting enough attention? don't you think there should have been a moment to stay look at the stage. look at what this represents about america. to me that was almost glossed over in the coverage. >> well, i think that's one of the downfalls of having two nights of debates and 20 candidates. there's so many issues to cover. >> i think the candidates made the point. >> that's true. they did make the point. >> i don't think it was glossed over, because exactly what katie said. the candidates made the point. we should pause and note it right now. you had pete buttigieg making very kind of subtle and deft reference to being married to a man and you had kamala harris talking about the diversity on the stage. i think it was right there in front and we didn't need to pause and say, hey, look how diverse. >> and amy klobuchar on reproductive rights, there are three women up here who can vouch for that. >> is there a situation -- is