essence of joe biden which is that he's got all of this experience, it can become a distraction, and it can become a burden. i would urge him, if i were on his team, i would urge him to say less about that frankly, or if there's going to be a foreign policy question, pivot immediately to the chaos that's happening at the border. to the fact that what he talks about, being able to rally the nations, lead the free world, and develop policies that will support a safer and more secure world are not being applied in latin america. you know, i would always tell him you got to bring it closer to home for the democratic coalition. that's what really people want to hear about. >> final word, what are you hearing from folks in iowa? clearly that executive experience, talked about going toe to toe with thugs and really prescribes a different path with north korea, that kind of specifics. does that resonate with voters at least to the extent that they can imagine him being commander in chief? >> well, that's something that i