the germans gave them chemical weapons. nobody gave us a single missile to defend ourselves. so it's impossible to tell the iranian people that's why the united states is selling $87 billion worth of military equipment while saudi arabia is buying over $87. and the united states is selling $50 billion to the persian gulf every year that they expect us to abandon our only and most important means of defense. >> so let me ask you. we don't have much time. what is the win for president trump? you say there has -- the only way that you're going to get out of this is a win-win, not a lose-lose. how do you give president trump a win? >> well, president trump can, in fact, find a mechanism to have international peace and security through agreement, through understanding, rather than through confrontation. he made a very prudent decision not to start a war by deciding