the convention. it wasn't a problem for democrats asking her to go to states and now all of a sudden he's someone out of touch with what democrats want? i think that's the wrong tactic for the democrats. >> go ahead, angela. >> and i definitely appreciate you, tara, saying that. but the reality is we have been through a lot. there's a new cadre of black voters who now some of them are voting for the same time. listen, there are some issues that didn't matter to y'all now that matter to me now. the very people locked up under the crime bill in 1992 but certainly one of the leaders at the forefront of it were my parents, was my uncle, was my aunt, was my big brother, was my big sister and these are things we care about and it's tom of mind. wages are at the top of mind. so joe biden is going to have to make a case that it absolutely is a different ball game than it