i remember being on cnn for the first time and saying donald trump is racist, we can't say that, yes, we can how many more facts do we need. please help me because my voice is gone. >> it's okay. it still sounds soothing at 6:00 a.m. in the morning. >> i don't know about that. i think what people don't realize and there's a direct correlation between his policies and what's going on in the united states census. for those of us in the south where you are having an opportunity to win some of these seats, when you go through the bible belt, the georgias, alabamas, mississippis, south carolinas, you're going to have people afraid to be counted. this is a campaign of fear. >> there's always been an juund count in this people, people have always been afraid. juaquin castro said to me, this is not about legal versus illegal. this is about discrimination now. >> you are looking at some numbers here. >> right, one of the things i was looking into this morning because this is dealing with legal immigration, and you see
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